#16 - RHYS GOCH of YSTRAD YW
For this man, Bartrum offered
4 different pedigrees:
(1) "Rys goch ap Ivor ap Eignon vab
arglwydd Kyrnyw"
(2) "Rys goch ap Meinyrch arglwydd
Ystrad Yw"
(3) "Rys goch kyff kenedl Ystrad Yw
ap Rricert ap Einion ap Gwngudd"
(4) "Rys [goch] ap Rickart ap Einion
ap Gloyw ap Hoyw ap Hyfaidd henllyn ap Kradog craichvras arglwydd Maes Hyfaidd"
In his notes to the pedigrees,
Bartrum says:
"The genealogies point to a
date of about 1070 for his birth. He could have been a son of Maenyrch as in [#15 in this series] but the best texts
make him son or grandson of Einion. Hyfaidd Henllyn is presumably supposed to have given his name to Maes Hyfaidd (Radnor).
The epithet seems to be a corruption of Unllen. Hyfaidd Unllen appears without parentage in Culhwch ac Olwen (WM
462, RM 107) and Breuddwyd Rhonabwy (RM 159).
PEDIGREE 1:
While omitting Richert
between Ifor and Einion, this pedigree refers to a different man named Rhys Goch; this man was a brother of the father of
the Rhys Goch Lord of Ystrad Yw. Neither man had any connection to Cernyw.
PEDIGREE 2:
We believe this pedigree
is correct, but does not carry his ancestry back far enough to identify the Maenyrch who was his father.
PEDIGREE 3:
Although this pedigree
omits two generations, Rhys Goch did descend from Richert ap Einion...but whether this Einion was a son of Gwynngy or Selyf
is uncertain[1].
PEDIGREE 4:
Like #3 above, this pedigree
seeks to attach Rhys Goch to the family descended from the c. 475 Caradog Freich Fras. It also omits the names of the
father and grandfather of Rhys Goch.
BARTRUM'S NOTES:
We agree Rhys Goch was born
c. 1070, but our analysis finds he had an uncle (not Lord of Ystrad Yw) also called Rhys Goch in the pedigree material and
born c. 1045. We do not agree, however, that the father of either man was the Maenyrch who fathered Bleddyn.
Our preferred chart of
this extended family links it with the Irish Deisi tribe:
NOTICE: In a recent review of this family, we suggest that the c. 945 Einion in this chart was the son of Gwynngy
ap Hydd Hwgan in the ancestry of Bleddyn ap Maenyrch. See that paper at this link:
715 Naufedd Hen[2]
l
745 Naufedd
l
775 Tewdwr
l
810 Gwylog
l
840 Elisse
l
875 Gruffudd
l
910 Selyf
l
945 Einion (see the NOTICE above)
l
975 Richert
l
1010 Ifor
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l
l
1040 Maenyrch
1045 Rhys Goch(a)
l
1070 Rhys Goch(b)
(a) The Rhys
Goch cited as married to Sian ferch Cadwgan ap Elystan Glodrydd[3], a lady born c. 1055; also the one cited as a son
of Ifor
(b) He was
Lord of Ystrad Yw and had a daughter Gwladys, born c. 1105, who married Ynyr Fychan ap Meurig ap Ynyr of Gwent[4]. That
Ynyr Fychan was born c. 1095; this is also the Rhys Goch cited as a son of Maenyrch
NOTES:
[1] Refer to our discussion in "Rulers of Brychieniog - The Unanswered Questions"
at the link below:
[2] Ibid note 1; he descended from Cathen ap Cloten of the Deisi tribe.
The mother of Cathen was the heiress of the last male descended from Brychan
[3] T. Jones "History of Brecknockshire, Glanusk Edition, vol ii, p. 141
[4] Llyfr Baglan, 10 & 141
